Getting and keeping their attention
On August 8th Derek wrote...
"...But the audience for my wife's podcast, Lip Gloss and Laptops, is something else. They have a much smaller number of subscribers and readers, something in the high hundreds, with something like 10% of the monthly downloads of Inside Home Recording, as far as I can tell. But they get about the same amount of email as IHR does. In other words, probably almost every one of their listeners is truly dedicated, and they're involved and sending feedback..."
It was a good post and he goes on to speak of the coming day of how advertisers are going to reevaluate smaller chunks of a larger pie when it comes to audiences. The usual, thought provoking Derek post, as normal. Derek is a bright guy who, rightfully, hates REO Speedwagon, but I digress.
That said, the broader topic of listener/reader feedback probably has been floating in my head in the last few months – probably too much. Listening to many a podcast and reading many a blog, the best I can come up with as to what makes audiences respond is a combination of open-endedness, what type of personal attachment do listeners have with the topic, and is there perceived likelihood of of having an effect.
In the case of open-endedness, Christi and myself spent many, many hours producing the diabeticfeed podcast. The production values are as good as they can be for cheap, carefully crafting self contained shows. We would occasionally read listener feedback and ask for more. But we would take a topic, and give it an intro, expand, then end it - leaving sometimes very little room for others to come up and say "Did you ever think about this..." Compare this to the Podfather, Adam Curry. Adam comes up with a topic, lightly grazes the surface then gets others to expand on the topic, which usually is not too serious, over the course of many podcasts. A good example of that is his recent fascination with toilet paper. He is brilliant in evoking a response from others.
With personal attachment - I mean it in the "How close are you to the topic" way. Again with diabeticfeed - the listeners are very close to the topic discussed, too close at times. Diabetes is not necessarily associated with a positive experience, making it hard to want to add to the conversation. With a podcast like Lipgloss and Laptops, topics discussed there are light and lend themselves very well to discussion. Inside Home Recording covers the topic of audio recording in much depth. I love this podcast. It is sometimes hard, though, to discuss with authority the voodoo of audio recording. Derek and Paul do. When I listen to IHR, I listen intently, hoping to catch the grain of something I can use. I would love to send a picture of my podcast recording rig - but Audacity, Skype, a Griffin iMic, a Behringer UB802 and a Radio Shack Mic with a pantyhose "pop" screen does not an interesting rig make. You really have to know your stuff, or have a well crafted question, to add to the fabric of IHR.<br>
Perceived likelihood of of having an effect is equivalent to a tree falling in a forest. Before anyone speaks, they obviously want to be heard. (Why do I write this blog, now that I think about it?) I recently I wrote an email to a podcast I really enjoy, podcast411. The email was a comment on Rob's recent rant on Jay Thomas (who had the ground breaking role of "Remo," the deli owner from the middle 2 seasons of the 4 season run of "Mork and Mindy" – a role that all other actors playing deli owner roles are compared to) and how Jay Thomas views podcasting in general, and Keith and the Girl specifically, from a old line radio guy's point of view. Since I spent 4 1/2 years in radio, I feel I can speak with some confidence to the issues made of Jay Thomas' point of view in the podcast. Rob did not write back. Did he get it? Did I send it to the wrong email address? Did I offend? I don't know. Tree fell - did you hear it? I still am a fan of podcast411, regardless - the podcast is too darn interesting. (Update: Rob did write back about one month after this was posted. His podcast, still very interesting.)
Along the same lines, I recently wrote an email to Leo Laporte telling him of an odd character in his Radio Leo XML feed and it was making iTunes choke. Thinking that in the piles of email that he receives Leo would not see an email telling him of the problem. But I had to at least say something, because he is not exactly on speed dial. I checked the feed a few hours later and it was working - and he wrote me back with a quick thanks. Tree falls - it was heard. We all like the feeling that we are making a difference with our words and actions.
One final point - Kerri at the sixuntilme.com blog spends as much time responding to comments and hunting down other diabetic bloggers, it seems, as she spends actually blogging. Not only is she bringing others in, but she puts effort in also listening and responding - much effort. Kerri has a gift. I think part of the secret is hiding somewhere in there.
I am sure I am not the only one who has giving the topic some thought, and as I go along, I will listen to others opinions - like yours - please leave a comment if this prodded you in any way. I will read it. Try to change my mind if you think I am wrong. Expand on what I am right about. There is no time limit and the comments are always on.
Labels: blogs, Derek K. Miller, Kerri, podcasts, rant general, sixuntilme


5 Comments:
John, a photo of your setup would be way more useful to most Inside Home Recording listeners, including me, than a photo of some super-expensive high-end rig, because your show manages (managed?) to get excellent sound out of minimal equipment, which is ultimately what anyone recording should be trying to do.
You're quite right about listener and reader communities needing responses to feel involved -- I'm often impressed how Leo Laporte and Adam Curry encourage that as well. Thanks for getting me thinking more about this topic.
Derek - probably the only thing I can really offer a podcaster is the Dynamic Range compressor settings I use in audacity for vocal processing after recording - they are as follows
Threshold-24db,
Ratio:10:1,
Attack Time: 0.1
Very sexy, I know. These settings only work in Audacity versions 1.2.3 and maybe 1.2.4b Thy DO NOT work in 1.3.0b - I ruined a whole podcast that with that combo.
I'll take a picture of the “rig”and flickr it for you.
And you are welcome. I am terribly interested in these topics because, I am sure you already see, as well, that not just advertising, but how we market everything, from ourselves to widgets, in the future is going to change.
You've found me out - I actually don't have a job and I am tied to my laptop ALL DAY LONG, stalking other diabetics and trolling their sites.
"Come to me, my pretties. Let me comment until my fingertips are virtually un-testable! Heh heh heh."
Thanks for the compliments, though. I appreciate it. And I will take you to dinner when you people venture up to NYC again.
What's the deal with DiabeticFeed? Will be venture forth from it's ashes, like a sugarless Phoenix?
Keri,
The differences between “actively pursuing” and “stalking,” may look the same to a bystander, but one can be welcome, the other not so much. You are welcome. And you're welcome. Your achievements in slightly over a year in blogdom are quite admirable.
Dinner in N.Y.C.? - You got it - Katz's Deli in SoHo (I hope you like Pastrami by the pound). I'm buying.
As far as diabeticfeed goes, Christel's new job sucks up her time to a point where we have not had even had the chance to do one. We have had false starts but have not had time to get to the point of production. But we have not given up on it. The domain has been renewed. And it will rise from the Splenda® sweetened ashes - my hand to Mouse.
I didn't know there was a diabetic podcast. I just checked out diabetic feed. Interesting.
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